Talks in Bali between countries from all over the world have been struggling to agree on a plan to cut emissions, with the US reportedly unhappy signing up to strict targets. Do you think the summit will achieve anything positive? Does the attitude of the US make you angry? Or are the talks a pointless exercise in the fight against global warming?
Here we have the nub , Organizations do not do the science , and all have political considerations , internal and external ,
bringing with them agenda's and motives .
The scientists ( over 400 / individuals and teams ) Do the actual work / science ect and do put their reputations on the line , they will also supply the data , research and evidence for others too inspect ,
Peer review . is important , for their work to be accepted , which it is .
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Unlike organizations , who only show what they choose too , and are not subject to the rigours , of real science .
I would rather trust the scientists peer reviewed work over an
intergovermental panels statement every time .
An example would be Al Gores hockey stick graph , which , has great publicity , and is presented as science , but when you examine the data sets you discover at least three different non related sets of data are used and they are cut and pasted together , without telling the audience about this . Its not science , its actually called deception .
Some thing a politition of Al's calibre would know all about .
So a politically funded / organizations statement ,( with no consiquences if wrong )
or a working scientists actual data and research ( reputation at stake )
and possibly his funding / career , one the line ..( if trickery is a foot )
You choose , I know who I would rather trust .
Scientists say there is no man made effect on the climate .
Its a hoax ,the sceintific consenssus collapsed last year
completely. This meeting in Bali , was a total scam .
A free holiday for a lot of self important know nothings.
Yes.....they all agreed they could screw us all a bit more for fuel & make themselves even richer in the process. They know oil is running out & they intend to maxamise what they can out of what is left. Global warming.......that's the excuse!!!!
You know what forget the talks...we might as well just do our bit—the govertment is just all talk and not enough action.
Yes.....it achieved a great time for all who attended...sun.sand....and whatever.
on the climate discssions.....it achieved NOTHING.
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