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   phyzx from a chair says:

   Dec 17, 17:19

   How do the IPCC dismiss evidence of natural causes of climate change ?
   Well its in their remit too .
   They only deal with "suspected man made effects " conveniently allowing them to dismiss any other science that shows natural causes to be more significant . ( cop out or what ? )
2.  
   phyzx from a chair says:

   Dec 17, 17:12

   Greenhouse " climate change " skeptics include
   China
   America
   Afghanistan
   Andorra
   Brunei
   Chad
   Iran
   Palestine
   Sahrawi Arab republic
   San Marino
   Somalia
   Tajikistan
   Vatican City
   Zimbabwe
   These include , the biggest population , the most polluting , and major Oil producers , amongst others . When the BBC claim " nearly all " countries are agreed with climate the hoax , They are not quite giving it to us straight , are they ? A huge chunk of the world ( both population and pollution wise ) are not on board at all .
3.  
   George Findlay from Kent says:

   Dec 17, 14:31

   phyzx from a chair says:Dec 17, 14:01
   phyzx from a chair says:Dec 15, 21:41
   "What exactly is going to replace this essential ( non polluting ) product ?
   The IPCC statement stinks ( an its not the C02 ) ."
   What happened to my post ???
   VM actively removing good arguments ? Pro greenie dirty tricks ?
   George Findlay says,
   phyzx, unfortunately there has been so many offensive posts on the board lately, all from the same source of course, the VM staff have been rather busy, the source of the offensive posts using pseudo names and false identities has been traced and the situation is being monitored. You are in the clear phyzx, your contributions are excellent and a welcome introduction to truth and reality. Keep up the good work.
   If any of your posts have been removed, take my word for it, there has been a mistake, conversely the greenies are getting desperate, their offensive posts are their only response to reality
   George.
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   phyzx from a chair says:

   Dec 17, 14:20

   C02 is the 13th largest ( by volume ) commodity , traded on the world markets . It is the bubbles in fizzy drinks . It is used in
   Drinks
   Food
   Pneumatic systems
   Fire extinguishers
   Welding
   Caffeine removal
   Pharmaceuticals and other chemical processing
   Biological applications
   Lasers
   Polymers and plastics
   Oil recovery
   As refrigerants
   Coal bed methane recovery
   wine making
   Flat beer everyone ? no air brakes on transport ? no fridges or freezers ? no welding ?
   The Poznan statement of a 20 % reduction in C02 by 2020 is an out right lie .
   It would need a 20 % reduction in world population to do this .
   When are they planning that ? ( be afraid )
   Science shows ( recent peer reviewed work ) that C02 causes cooling not warming . It is a harmless non polluting inert gas , that cannot be replaced in industry . The IPCC statement stinks ( not C02 )
   Its a scam fight it and them .
5.  
   George Findlay from Kent says:

   Dec 17, 14:14

   George Findlay says,
   With no alternative evidence it obvious that the natural elements control earth's atmospheric temperature, so let us study a few facts.
   George Findlay says,
   Powerful deep ocean currents create the ocean conveyor. Three separate ocean currents connect oceans together carrying nutrients, oxygen and heat that drives the climate.
   Water from the Carribean to the Isles of Scilly, the gulf stream picks up heat and moisture from the sea. You get an idea of heat travelling round the world on a gulf stream, Canada is on the same latitude as the Scilly Isles and no gulf stream in Canada.
   Atmosphere and ocean currents interact to drive the climate changes.
   The conveyor links the entire planet and carries oxygen and warmth, hot on the surface and cold at the bottom.
   Changes in ocean currents can have big effect on weather round the world. In the Pacific every three years a warm current goes from east to west and is responsible for the weather on much of the globe. An alternating single ocean current puts the weather into disarray for month's. The great ocean conveyor is one of the most powerful forces on the planet.
   With no verifiable scientific data available relating the the outer edge of Earth s' atmosphere, the outer edge cannot be accurately calculated using precise mathematic's.
   George Findlay says,
   4*pi*radius^2
   To a close approximation, the Earth is a sphere with a radius of about 3960 miles
   Surface area (Earth) = 4*pi (3690 miles)^2
   Surface area (Earth) 197,060,800 square miles
   Assume human population 7000 million
   People per square mile 36
   Assume Earth atmosphere height from (Earth) surface to edge 10, miles.
   Assumed atmosphere volume approximately 1,970,608,000 cubic miles
   To close approximation, people per cubic mile 4
   Based on a projected density average, it would be extremely difficult for 4 people to increase Earth's atmospheric temperature of 1 cubic mile (Earth) over an extended period.
   If anyone has any further evidence or alternative opinions, please post your contribution on the board?

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